IDS #150 - Artificial Intelligence, Krull, and Conway Twitty

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Now, now we're gonna test our I improvs skills. Okay? Yeah, yeah, yeah. So I have some things I do want to mention. Okay. Um,

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Now here are your hosts, Mike and Darren. Hey, I'm Mike. I'm Darren. This is Irritable Dad syndrome, episode 100. Welcome to the show. We've got so many things to talk to you about. Oh my goodness. Episode, 

Darin: it's gonna be 

Mike: sick. If you listen to our last episode, you heard our conversation, our engaging conversation with Shadow Stevens.

Mm-hmm. He was a really cool guy. Remember when he was talking about that thing and the stuff he talked about, the thing and 

Darin: the stuff, and, and then know he at the same time because he, and then he went back. Yeah. And he started talking about those other things that, I mean, I really, and I, I didn't think he would go there, but he did, 

Mike: you know, when he tied the stuff mm-hmm.

With the things. Mm-hmm. And then brought it back full circle to the stuff. Yeah. He, he brought it all home. 

Darin: It was all current and that was amazing. I, I just, I was so surprised. And if you wanna know what we're talking about, go do irritable dad syndrome.com and listen to our last episode. Yeah. With legendary, legendary leg.

He's a legend in radio. Mm-hmm. Film, television. And I, I just [00:02:00] wanna mention again that if you have not listened to mental radio with Shadow Stevens Yes. Go to mental radio.net. It is really right now. Yeah. I played it. Uh, oh. Actually, I sent a link of it to our buddy Andrew, who listens to this show. Yeah.

He's our, he's our attorney. Yeah. And he said, I don't know what that was, but I can't stop listening to it. It's amazing. It is amazing. 

Mike: Yeah. And I, I honestly, 

Darin: I can't believe Shadow was a 

Mike: guest. Yeah. I'm, I'm 

Darin: excited. I think I, I'll tell you what it was. Mm-hmm. He Shadow probably listens to our show, Uhhuh.

And he's like, if Haywood Banks can do it, then hell I'll, I'll then, if he's cool enough to be on the show, yeah. Then I'm 

Mike: gonna do it. So the show in question is Irritable dad syndrome. That's what you're listening to right now, by the way. Yes, it is. If you like what we do, please go to irritable dad syndrome.com.

Mm-hmm. It's a fancy website. You know, you do a really good job with the website. It's got images. Yes. It's got searchable things and stuff. Some of the episodes, many of the episodes have transcripts. Here's a fun drinking game. Uhhuh, listen to the episode, then read the [00:03:00] transcript and try to tell if that really goes with the episode.

Darin: They always misspell my name 

Mike: on the transcript. Oh, okay. And they. Dave and I don't know who to call to talk to about that, and I just, it uses AI to determine who's talking. Mm-hmm. Either me, you, or Dave. Right. I just recently started putting Dave as a label because it kept finding a third speaker and I'm an idiot.

I'm like, there's no third speaker, just me. It's Dave? No, it's Dave Lake. So yeah, if you look at some of the transcripts that calls out Dave. Mm-hmm. Some of 'em it doesn't. Yeah. Some of them will have clips from Will Ferrell or Bill Murray. Mm-hmm. And it'll, that's Dave. Yes. Um, so our transcripts are nothing if not exceptionally accurate.

Yes. And detailed. I read a tip online. Yeah. And I'm planning on trying this on the internet. Hey, on, on the interwebs. Okay? Take your entire transcript, feed it in the chat, G b t and see In in the what? Chat. G b T, the ai. Hey, you know me. You don't, you don't, you haven't heard of chat, G B T? No, no. Tell me all about chat.

G B T. Mike chat. G p t is [00:04:00] the AI thing that's been in the news for like the past four months. Oh, oh, I don't watch you've, you've heard of the AI craze. AI is a big thing. 

Darin: Yes it is. So this AI stands for artificial imagery? Yes. 

Mike: Okay. So this is the thing that is creating content. It's doing all kinds of crazy stuff.

Students are using it to cheat in school. They're saying, write me a paper on World War ii. Make it 4,000 words and talk about these three things. It'll write them a paper and it'll write them at, you know, whatever level you want 'em write at whatever grade you think it should get. Uhhuh, it'll, it'll.

Fashion it together for you. It will not. It will. It will list. It will take, you can notes, feed in our voices, Uhhuh, and then you can have it, create a script for a podcast. Use our voices and it will create an episode with those topics. That you can listen to, it'll create an irritable ed syndrome episode full with the production and everything, huh?

Yeah. Okay. So we're closer to Skynet than you think we are. Yeah. Uh, people are, [00:05:00] so people are using that, uh, Google is doing a thing where they are looking at content and they're using markers to try to figure out what is. Being created by a ai, AI and what is not just kind of, as my dad would 

Darin: say, they're putting my name on 

Mike: a list.

They are putting your name on a list. So it's, we're in a whole new world, Uhhuh, where there's, there's a lot of content and you can see, you can tell right now, you're still in a period where you can tell. By the way, don't, don't 

Darin: say a whole new world unless you want me to start singing Aladdin. Don't do that.

And if you listen to two episodes ago with a Little Mermaid, you know, 

Mike: I will burst out into song. Don't do that. So, They, we are in a space now where it's, it's kind of easy to tell, which is AI and which is not, but it's, it's getting murky. Yeah. Okay. It's getting really murky. 

Darin: Well, you know, I've seen a lot of the, you know, on the 

Mike: TikTok, those, those Star Wars, uh, trailers that I've, that I've been sending to you guys on the chat that's created with ai Yeah.

With like Adam Driver in Dune and, and just weird stuff. It's creating video with audio, 

Darin: everything. No, it's [00:06:00] not called. It's not 

Mike: called that, but there's West Anderson, star Wars and West Anderson. Oh, I love the West Anderson. Star Wars. Yeah. That's all trailer ai. That was hysterical. 

Darin: Oh my God. That was the funniest thing I'd seen in a very, very, very long time.

Yeah. But no, there was a guy who made like an ai George Lucas Uhhuh and had his name. Yeah. And it's not George Lucas. Right. But he looks and sounds just like George Lucas. Yeah, because he put his face. George Lucas' face on this other person. 

Mike: Well, that's what the, you, you're, you are aware that there's a writer strike.

Yes. It's because of ai. Yeah. Yeah. They want their, because a company, AI has gotten to the point mm-hmm. With chat G B T and similar things. Yeah. Where they can just take what a writer's done for the past couple years. Yeah. And they don't need the writer anymore. Yeah. Just what would this person do with this topic?

It's, it's disgraceful. It really is. Yeah. Yeah. So here we are. 

Darin: Yeah. Our buddy Mike Chisholm mm-hmm. Who hosts the 

Mike: Letterman podcast. He's pronounced Chis 

Darin: home, Chi Chis home. Mm-hmm. He, um, he's 

Mike: buddies now. He's ai he's not real. Oh really? I mean, as [00:07:00] far as I can tell, he's just a, he's just a rectangle on our screen when we talk to him.

Just a guy 

Darin: with a ponytail. Yeah. Uh, but no, he is, uh, a buddies now with a lot of the writers for Letterman. Yeah. Okay. Okay. And he is actually going to go. On strike on the picket 

Mike: line. Holy crap. Really? With Steve Young? Oh, he's, yeah. One of the writers for Letterman. Oh. We need to figure out a way to interview him while he's on strike 

Darin: there.

Oh, 

Mike: that would be awesome. Yeah. Have him call in. Yeah, 

Darin: yeah. Yeah. It'd be really cool. Did you write, it's like, did you write your own, uh, sign that you're charact? Is that against the, the will of the strike? 

Mike: Yeah. Yeah. I wonder. Yeah, so I, I've, so I've been, yeah, since I've. Found that it can do all those different things.

I've, I've really been toying with the idea. I am gonna take one of our transcripts and put it in there and see what it does with it. Okay. I'd be really curious and 

Darin: it will like do our voices. Yeah. Okay. 

Mike: I'm fascinated. There's things out there that, because right now they're doing it with let's, like, let's try and then we'll sling it out.

You've seen the deep fakes. That was kind of, that's what I was talking deep fake. Yeah. 

Darin: Yeah, yeah, [00:08:00] yeah. 

Mike: Hmm. So the, you've heard of the Turing test. Have you heard of the touring test with ai? No. The touring test is where you can, it, it was a, it was a test developed to determine when AI becomes self-aware.

When you can't tell the difference between artificial intelligence and another human being, okay. If you, if you pass the terrain, if it passes the terrain test or fails it, I can't remember which way it goes. Spell then touring. T U R I N G. Okay. Yeah. So you, there's a series of questions that psychologists and scientists or whatever have for ais and they will fall apart.

So years and years ago. They would have bots, you know what I mean? There are still bots out there and chats and things, but they would say stupid like, um, me, like you, you like me? I don't know why the bot sounds like that, but it uhhuh. Yeah. Here's a picture of my fluffy. All of we're, we're in the middle of Tommy Boy.

What kind hotel is this? Yeah. But it's, it's with chat G B T, it's gotten really difficult to tell the difference. Yeah. So the concern or what they're talking about, uh, [00:09:00] Elon Musk has been talking about, we're, we're reaching that point where we won't be able to tell. And it's not like it's going to happen slowly.

Mm-hmm. His thing, and if you watch his interview on Joe Rogan's podcast, it'll, uh, keep you up at night. So I don't recommend it, but it is pretty fascinating. He talks about how once we realize that it's happened, it's too late to do anything about it. Because everything that we use is controlled with the computers.

Every, your phone, everything. Yeah. And people are using chat g p t on their phones. Yeah. Um, you, you're, you can access it on that, so it can control what you see. Everything that you're, however you're interacting, it can mimic people. Mm-hmm. On Facebook, it's, there's profiles that are set up that aren't real people Yeah.

Darin: Are interacting. Well, you know, you can go into it with, uh, Uh, with the ai. Mm-hmm. And you can throw in a few keywords. Yeah. Like, I want, uh, Harrison Ford as the, the Hulk. Yeah. Okay. Bam. Uh, in the rain. Okay. Yeah. And it will sling you out an image of Harrison Ford. Yeah. Hulked out 

Mike: in the rain. Redo big labunski with the Avengers [00:10:00] cast.

Yes. Yeah. And then, and then it does that. Yeah. I think it's awesome. Yes. 

Darin: But it's also, yeah. But the people who invented it mm-hmm. Are, they're essentially shooting 

Mike: themself in the foot. Yeah. Well, it's one of those things, uh, it was like Jurassic Park, um, the guy. Yeah. Who's the guy? Jeff Goldblum. Joel Go.

Jeff Goldblum. Yeah. Every, so thinking about whether you can, and they've never thought about whether they should. People keep asking whether they can, they 

Darin: should ask. 

Mike: Whether they should. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Exactly. So yeah, so at first, at first glance, you're like, okay, yeah, whatever. Mm-hmm. There's ai people won't know what it is, but when you really look at how much it controls, it doesn't really need to actively control, you know, whether or not the heat goes up and down in your house.

Although it can certainly do that. Yeah. It if it controls your perception about, The outside world and what's going on. Mm-hmm. I mean, how much time are people spending on their phones staring at screens? The majority of people? Mm-hmm. Uh, I would say the majority of people that I speak to get their news [00:11:00] and get their information about what's happening outside of their community through a screen.

Yeah. And if it can be faked that easily, you know, like I said, right now it can, you can kind of tell but, 

Darin: well, people already believe social media is news. Yeah. You know, I saw it on Facebook. 

Mike: Yeah. So it's gotta be true. And it's on the book of faces. Exactly. You gotta, yeah. 

Darin: Well this is another example of, uh, maybe not to this extreme, but, you know, Hollywood shot themself in the foot.

Uhhuh. Okay. It, it used to be everybody, and I mean, everybody loved going to the movies. Yeah. Okay. America. The United States, you know, one of their greatest exports was Hollywood and Motion pictures. Yeah. Okay. All across this flat planet of ours. People loved watching movies that were made here in the United States.

Okay. And then so what did they do? They started, uh, they started marketing TVs bigger and bigger. And bigger and bigger. Yeah. Yeah. And then, hey, we're gonna sell you this home entertainment center. Right. And it'll be just like a movie in your damn house, Uhhuh. [00:12:00] Okay. Oh, one strike. Okay? Mm-hmm. And then on the dvd, all they had to do was put the movie out on DVD V d.

Mm-hmm. Okay. That would've been fine. But they got greedy. Yeah. And they said, we want you to see the movie and by the dvd. Because the DVD has bonus features. Yeah. Yeah. And it has the audio commentary from the director, Uhhuh and the key grip. Yeah. And 

Mike: the dude who might, and you can watch it in German. Yes.

Or you can 

Darin: change the, the subtitles and the the, all that stuff. Yeah. And you can see deleted scene. Mm-hmm. Okay. So people for a long time were doing that. Yeah. They would go to the movie. They loved it so much that 

Mike: they, oh, I'm buying that now we're gonna up the resolution and now you gotta rebuy all the blue rays.

They gotta rebuy it. The 4K S and the thing. Yeah. Yeah. 

Darin: And then they said people are sick of cable. So we're gonna start streaming? Yeah. Okay. And Netflix was, was the, the horse that ran out the gate first and everybody had Netflix. And then boom, boom, B Peacock, HBO plus, yeah. Uh, the Hulu. Mm-hmm. And Disney.

Mm-hmm. And this, and this and this and this. And so all these. People who tried to [00:13:00] save money getting rid of cable now have nine 10 streaming services and probably pay more for, you know, what they did at Cable. Yeah. I've got off track. My point is, 

Mike: well if I may for our listeners, Uhhuh, um, this is a comedy podcast.

Yeah. This is funny as shit. No. This is the funniest you've heard all day. And don't act like it's not, we're allowed to be serious every once in a while. Yeah. We are because we, we talk about fascinating topics. Yeah. 

Darin: Yeah, but my point is yes, there's, people are asking how come people won't go to the movies anymore because of you?

Because you've it up for everybody. Yeah. Cuz you're 

Mike: charging $15 Yes. For Colonel of Popcorn. Yes. Which, 

Darin: Movie tickets are out the wazoo. Yeah. Okay. Movie tickets are so expensive. You won't go to the movie unless you can spend $175. Right. You 

Mike: I'm one of those guys. Exactly. Well, when The Avengers, I mean, I had to watch it in all that's glory.

I, I gotcha. Um, I gotcha. Yeah. [00:14:00] But, but movie tickets are way, way, way too expensive. I think you go to the movies more often than I do, though. I've got, not lately, so 

Darin: Not really. Maybe not anymore. Well, we used to, Libby and I, we used to go to one, sometimes two movies a weekend, 

Mike: every weekend. Speaking of this, speaking of this, before I forget.

Mm-hmm. And I need to tell you and everyone in the world that listens to this show, Uhhuh Dungeons and this comedy podcast. Yeah. This comedy podcast you have, you have, here's comedy, you have Paramount Plus. Yes, I do. Still, yeah. Dungeons and Drag is on it right now. It is streaming. Okay. Yeah. I, okay. We, when, when Bess and I were sitting down, by the way, Mm-hmm.

We have a decent tv. You do? We have a decent, um, home theater thing. Yeah. Uh, people can see we have like the little lights back there. Mm-hmm. Yeah. Most of the stuff we watch now is on the TV in our bedroom. Mm-hmm. The little one on the wall. And we've been streaming survivor Uhhuh season one and two from like 20 odd years ago.

Yeah. So as we were. As we were getting in, [00:15:00] getting ready to watch Survivor, uh, it popped up and said, Hey, judges and Dragons is on Fair and out plus now. And I was like, Holy crap. It was, I just 

Darin: ordered it. It was just at the movie a month ago. Yeah. And I just, three weeks 

Mike: ago I just ordered the disc too.

Yeah. And I'm like, oh, okay. I'm still gonna get the disc cuz it is really, really good. Okay. But yeah, anybody within the Son of My voice. Mm-hmm If you haven't watched it yet. Yeah. I guess you still haven't excuse cuz you have to get Paramount Plus and I really, the only thing on there is at this point, judges and Dragons.

1883. 1883 In 1928 or 1928. Uh, survivor Uhhuh, uh, the Halo Show 

Darin: every episode of, uh, the, uh, the Amazing Race 

Mike: is on Paramount play. The Star Trek. Yeah. There's a new Star Trek with a guy that has gray hair, but looks like he's 20. 

Darin: That's Bevi and Butthead. Oh, okay. Yeah. You don't like Bevi said Butthead. I did.

I did too, but I, I, okay. I tried watching Beaver in Butt Head. I got maybe six minutes into it. Yeah. And I couldn't do it. Yeah. I just like, okay. All right. They're okay. That's, you know, you've gotten old when, [00:16:00] when, you know, you just 

Mike: couldn't do it. South Park. South Park. South Park. I still, I, I don't if a South Park comes on.

Okay. Which, I mean, yeah. Who am I kidding. I keep saying if this is on, I'll watch it. Mm-hmm. Nothing's on We stream. I sit down and choose what it is that I'm gonna watch. Yeah. I, I can't think the only time something's just on mm-hmm. Is when we visit, like, uh, my mom. Yeah. You know, the TV is on, it's like, oh, this is what we're watching now.

Yeah. Or you visit someone else's. No. Does she, does she have the Netflix or anything? No, no, no, no. She still has cable. Yes. Straight. Yeah. And let me tell you, with the commercials, boy, howdy. Yeah. Explaining to the kids what commercials are. Uh, it took a while. Oh, that's, it's like, why can't we just skip this?

You can't. And, and then, uh, you don't wanna go. 

Darin: That's how it used to be when we visited my mom in Tennessee. That's, and when she moved up here, or we finally convinced her to get the Netflix and, uh, and she's got Spectrum. So 

Mike: there was a, a, a guy that I went to school with, there's actually Tey. This is my best man at my wedding.

Okay. He had a thing that would How is he do? He's doing well. Oh, good. He had a thing that he would do if we were watching TV at the, in our house. [00:17:00] Mm-hmm. We shared a house, um, When commercials would come on, he would mute the TV and he would wanna talk to us. Like the first couple times he'd be like, he did it.

And he was like, okay, so Mike, how was your day? And I would be like, what the fuck are you doing today? What, what is it? You know? And then everybody would laugh. Like, what? Why you, this is a beer co. I, I actually wanna see this commercial. This looks like it's a funny commercial, Uhhuh. Oh, you don't need to see that commercial unless you, unless you have a good 

Darin: day, unless you're watching the Super Bowl.

I mean, 

Mike: yeah, it's like I don't want to talk to you at all Uhhuh, and b, I don't want to have a discussion with you in the middle of this show that we're watching Uhhuh, you know, stop it. And he did it to be, cuz he knew it would piss me off. Uhhuh, I don't know if you know this, I'm prone to go off on rants.

Really? I do from time to time when. And he would do this to get me peed up, and then when the movie would come back on, I'd be like, okay, Oll, shut up. And now I'm all jacked and I can't enjoy the movie.[00:18:00] 

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Darin: my grandfather, the second a commercial would come on, he would pop it to something else and he would surf around to see what was going. And then you missed half my, my anxiety was off the charts. Cause dude, how, how do you know? It's like, do you don't have a timer? Mm-hmm.

Do you have a two minute timer bill? No. Yeah, you don't. Bill. Bill the hell you, my grandfather's name is Bill, what the hell are you doing? Bill? And then, and I was just like, you're going to miss when the show comes 

Mike: back. Yeah. My, my dad, when he would take me to the movies I, we've talked about before on the show mm-hmm.

I saw a lot of inappropriate movies. Right. Because back in the day you couldn't tell what was in him. But my dad was obsessed with not watching the trailers. Right. [00:19:00] So he would try to time it to where we would get there. Past the trailers and we would end up missing the first five or six minutes of the movie.

I, I like the trailers. There are so I do too. I don't like 20 minutes of trailers. I know. But there were so many movies that as a kid I watched, I had no idea what the hell was going on. One of them your. The warrior of the future. 

Darin: The, the the, that guy. Do you remember your, that guy from Winnie the Poo? No.

Oh, not eor. No, that's eor. I'm sorry. So your, this is a comedy podcast. 

Mike: Yeah. Yeah. That was funny. This is some funny shit right now. This is where dude, your, your, your is like a 

Darin: caveman for your Yeah, 

Mike: exactly. He actually says that a couple like Luther of the Hill people, they're making fun of lo of your, a little bit with that.

Okay. But the deal with him is, mm-hmm. It's cave. They're cave people and then they happen upon some futuristic thing, and then you find out that they're actually way in the future. Oh. And society like devolved back down and now they're cave people and they're fighting robots and I don't know, [00:20:00] I don't know what happened because I missed the beginning of it.

Right. When we got into the theater, your, with his branch of Doom was walking into that, that was the name of the movie. Yeah. Like a spaceship in some, you know, back in the eighties there were always, um, just, I don't even know what I'm talking about. No. He would walk into the spaceship of doom. 

Darin: I'm so, so there's a caveman I'm already in and he's in a spaceship.

Mike: Yeah. I'm already. An idiot. I'm a kid. I, I don't know what's happening. The no gravity thing must have really, what's happening? I didn't know. Crawl. Crawl. I love crawl. Okay. It wasn't until I came on hbo years after it was in the theater, Uhhuh, when I finally got to see the beginning of crawl to see what all the fuss about.

That big ugly stole that lady and took her to the castle. I didn't know that. All I knew was the dude with the hair Uhhuh was going to get this grave. Why? I don't know. And hanging out with the cyclops uhhuh and riding horses in the air. Yeah. I don't, why are they doing this? This, 

Darin: Hey, what happened? [00:21:00] 

Mike: Did I see it at home?

Oh. Oh, we missed 15 

Darin: minutes of the movie. You know, you're talking about what we were trying to explain to the kids when you were watching TV at your mom's house. Yeah. And she has the commercials. Yeah. We were trying to explain to the kids what it was like when we grew up because we had three channels and then there was a time where the antenna on top of her house broke, and we had one channel.

Okay. There was a long time where we had one channel. Yeah. Uh, but the thing was when the commercial came on, that's when you went and used the bathroom real quick. Yeah. Got your popcorn and you ran back. Oh, okay. If you had to poop, man, you had to, you, you make sure that you poop before W K R P and Cincinnati comes on.

Cuz you don't wanna miss any A W K R P in Cincinnati. Yeah. And they, they didn't believe us. So we're trying to explain this to 'em. Well, we had a rule in our house. Oh, and if you missed an episode, you missed an episode. I had slide lanes. You had, you had to wait until the repeats. Yeah, in the fall. Now granted, back in the day, they would repeat an episode [00:22:00] maybe a couple times.

Yeah. Okay. I don't know what the networks do now. I, I can't tell you the last time I watch. No. The last time I watched an episode of network television was, 

Mike: this Is Us. There were slide lanes in my kitchen, in my mom's kitchen. The linoleum floor. Yeah. I knew when I would stop running and slide to get up to get to Doritos.

Yeah. And then slide over to get to Kool-Aid and run back to the tv. Yeah. 

Darin: Yeah. So one of the, uh, uh, one of the worst days of my childhood. Mm-hmm. Okay. I had watched Hill Street Blues. Okay. Do you remember Hill 

Mike: Street Blues? I never watched it. Okay. But I know what you're talking about. 

Darin: One of the most amazing.

Uh, network television shows of all time. Okay. Really? Yeah. Any critic will tell you. Hill Street Blues was a just amazing, so I had been watching Hill Street Blues and there was like a four episode arc of the show. Okay. Uh, the guy, uh, Becher. Okay. Becher was like the undercover cop who would like run and bite people and, and he would like go undercover and he would.

Pretend that he's homeless and all this stuff. Yeah. So he's the undercover cop. Well, there's this guy. Okay. Who thinks he can fly? He thinks he's a [00:23:00] superhero. 

Mike: Okay. Greatest, greatest American hero, 

Darin: kind of, but he's a character on Hill Street Blues. Okay. Okay. Yeah. And so Belker, he had warmed up to this crazy person, Uhhuh, and again, it's a four episode arc.

I had watched episode one, two, and three. Okay. Episode four was coming on Uhhuh. I wanted to watch it. And mom and my brother Greg said, oh, we don't wanna watch that tonight. 

Mike: I'm like, yeah. Was Dallas 

Darin: on? No, there was, uh, the Oakridge boys were on the Barbara 

Mike: Walters special interview. Yeah. Yeah. And, and they were like, well, they, them and Conway Twitty were always, 

Darin: well, they were like, we can, we can flip back and forth.

Let's just, no, you can't. Let's just flip back and forth. And I don't know what the rule was in your house, but whoever didn't wanna watch the show had to, if the TV was acting up, you had to like, like was the person who held the antenna. Yeah. So not only did I get to watch, did I not get to watch this episode of History Blues?

Yeah. I had to hold the antenna. Yeah. And by the time Barbara Walters interviewed the Oak Ridge [00:24:00] Boys mm-hmm. And we flipped back. The dude was dead. Okay. Okay. Our superhero friend was dead and I missed one of the greatest episodes of Hill Street Blues ever. I still have not seen it. Yeah. Okay. Yeah, it's not on in antenna TV cause 

Mike: it's not a comedy.

So the one, the one huge disagreement I can remember about what was on the tv. Uh, my parents had given me a five inch black and white tv shut up five inch. Wow. I'm, he was smaller than my phone screen. You pushed it into the wall when 

Darin: you needed more 

Mike: space, and it was Star Wars. Star Wars was going to be on TV for the first time ever.

And it was gonna happen is some other show that my parents were watching Dallas or something. Uhhuh, and I sat in my room, my face, three inches away from a five inch black and white screen uhhuh with a mono little speaker. I still remember the si, the speakers [00:25:00] that big like size of an Oreo uhhuh, and watched Star Wars Uhhuh.

Then when Empire Strikes Back came on tv, we had upgraded. We had the biggest, nicest tv. On the block. Okay. All the kids came over. Mm-hmm. And gathered around the 19 inch collar tv four by watch by three. Yeah. Empire Strikes Back. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. That was a big 

Darin: deal. Ooh. Yeah. We were the Jeff Foxworthy joke.

If you put your new TV on top of your old tv, you might be a redneck. Yeah. And we did that. We had the big panel tv. Yeah. The giant 80 pound panel TV that was on the floor when it died. What do you do with it? Yeah. Yeah. We couldn't carry it outside. I wish I had it now. 

Mike: So the only thing that's out there, but we put our new one on top of that one.

Yeah. The only thing that's out there now that even begins to mimic what we went through as kids, because I remember when Superman, the movie was coming on. Mm-hmm. Me and my friend Rock Plain, and we kept, like one of, one of us had a watch kept saying, is it, is it eight o'clock yet? Is it getting close at eight o'clock?

Because [00:26:00] we're gonna go watch Superman. Um, the closest thing that kids have to, that now are playing online with their friends. There's a moment when they're, the boys are gonna be on. Yeah. And you're all gonna get together and play. Yeah. That's really the only schedule, cuz everything else is on demand. I know.

Whenever the hell you wanna watch it. I know. 

Darin: Yeah. And you know what I, I kind of, I 

Mike: missed there, there was a collective experience thing. Yeah, I do. That's what made the Marvel movie so awesome. That's what, that's part of what made endgame so great. Yeah. Was that everybody in the world Yes. Was in the theaters watching that damn thing.

Darin: That was the one time. I mean, it's not like there's conflict in our house all the time. Mm-hmm. Okay. That was the one time where all four of us were equally stoked out of our fricking minds. Yeah. About this movie. Mm-hmm. And Mike, I'm telling you, night after night after night, it was like, well, how are they gonna do this?

How can he do that? They got all the rings. Yeah. Well, he can't sneak up on him. He can see him. Yeah. Well, he can't know. Well, he sees him to the future and, and it's like, well, what's gonna happen to Spider-Man? What's gonna happen? [00:27:00] Yeah. I mean, We were out of our mind. Excited. Mm-hmm. And you went to see it the day before?

We did. And I was just so jealous. Really? Yeah. I was like, oh my God. And it was all I could do. And I had, and I stayed off the inner webs. Oh yeah. No, I didn't turn on. Yeah. Nothing. Okay. And I absolutely just, I went on same. I resisting. I. Just completely resist. A buddy of mine, David Kane, made the mistake.

He had clicked on the link that said, Hey, here's some, uh, uh, leaked footage from a vintages in game. And he knew about Fat Thor. Okay. And then he knew about Captain America. B spoiler alert, captain America can hold mule near the hammer. So Captain 

Mike: Mule near is the hammer, right? 

Darin: Mule near is the hammer.

Yeah. And the the ax is shadow facts. 

Mike: Yeah. No, no, no, no. What's the ax? Shadow? Something. Wind breaker, wind breaker, 

Darin: storm breaker, wind breaker. So this is a comedy podcast, Kitz. 

Mike: So a couple things happened, [00:28:00] uh, during Endgame. Mm-hmm. Uh, my fam I cackled so loud at Fat Thor. Yeah. I couldn't stop laughing.

Remember when we all went to see Angry Birds too, at the same time? And me and Best could not stop laughing at the bathroom scene. Yeah. Yeah. That's how I was with Fat Thor. Yeah. To the point where, Bess was laughing along with me. Mm-hmm. And then she started looking embarrassed because I could not stop laughing.

Yeah. That, and I think it's the first time my kids ever heard me cuss in public out loud. Uhhuh was when Captain, when the hammer came back, it was Captain America. Yeah. And I wanna believe I said, holy shit, I may have said, yeah, yeah. But I hope I said holy. Yeah. But I've said one of those two things. Yeah.

That was a huge 

Darin: thing. It was. Mm-hmm. It was amazing. Yeah, it was 

Mike: absolutely amazing. And there were videos on YouTube. Mm-hmm. Um, I saved one of 'em of like, people would record in theaters. That scene happening? Yes. And like, the reaction. 

Darin: Yep. Uh, well, I mean, you know that I've, I've talked about it on this podcast many, many times.

Mm-hmm. And, uh, you know, captain America was the last one standing. [00:29:00] Yeah. And, uh, and he stands up and he tightens his shield. And he would've just, he would've, he would've just kept going. Yep. He would've, he's got, he still had fight in him. Yeah. And he was never gonna give up. That's right. And that's just like the, the, that's Captain America.

That's absolutely the epitome of what a superhero does. He never stops. So, yeah. And then, and we're like, oh my God, what's gonna happen? We had no idea. And then on your left, and then all the things opened up and then all the, they'd be like, oh my God. And the chills and the hairs stand up on your arm. Yeah.

And everyone just, just wanting to stand up and you're wanting to run onto the screen and fight with them and Yeah. Yeah. God, I'm a nerd. Oh 

Mike: my God. But the great movies all had that in common. Yeah. Indiana Jones, when the new Indiana Jones came out, that was kind of a, not. Not on that level, but it was kind of a, like, everybody's like, oh, that's coming out.

That's a big thing. 

Darin: Well, that's how new Star Wars, you know, Libby was out of her mind with, uh, the Lord of the 

Mike: Rings coming out every year. Oh, I year lost my sh I was driving best. Yeah. Uh, I knew that if she didn't leave me. Uh, leading up to the Lord of the Ring, she would never leave me because I was annoying [00:30:00] myself.

They were, they were releasing screenshots, uhhuh of the ring. Rath. They, they would, they'd show a picture of a ring rath. Yeah. And it would be on a wallpaper. This is back in Netscape days or whatever. And I'm like, yeah. Oh my God. And I was like, show. I was like, she's like, was that the hooded guy? Yeah. Yeah.

They're looking for the ring. They're gonna kill everyone. Yeah. She's okay. Yeah. That's kind of creepy. Yeah. But it's. Who's that? That's Strider. Yeah. I thought you said it's Airborne. Well, it's airborne in. It is. But you, it's Strider in this movie. Right. And when, when does he become airborne? He's always airborne, but he's, that's him.

And look, the hobbits. The hobbits don't look like little, that was my favorite thing. Right, right. Was that the hobbits? Mm-hmm. In everything leading up to that were always like, we're. Pretty. Pretty, pretty. Yeah. But in this one, they looked cool. Yeah. They were like cool looking Hobbits. Uhhuh. And they found a way.

They made gandolph look like a badass. Yeah. If you read the description of him in the book, it's like the pointy hat and all the mm-hmm. The little thing, little cartoons before had to Gand wizard badass. He is a badass. Return King [00:31:00] found a way to make his pointy hat awesome. Like now if I see a silhouette Yeah.

With that bent over pointy hat, all that dude's gonna mess you 

Darin: up. Well, you know what? And then I've had this conversation with the kids. Mm-hmm. The moral of that story was even the smallest person can do amazing grace. Oh yeah. Things. So it's a, and. Frodo at Mary and Pippen. Oh yeah, Sam. Those four, they had no idea what they were capable of.

Yeah. Okay. They thought they were just, you know, it's like we're gonna drink our beer, we're gonna eat our salted pork and we're gonna have our garden, which, and smoke smoke our pipes and ladi da. Right. And then, holy crap, they these four little hobbits uhhuh. Who, nobody. It's like, Hey, what happened? Yeah.

Nobody saw that happening. Yeah. And they just, they just tear it up. It's amazing. They tear it up and I'm sorry, but I, and I will judge a person who doesn't enjoy the Lord 

Mike: of the Rings. Oh yeah. As a kid. Well, that as a kid back in the day. Mm-hmm. You know, all the cool parts were like the, the fa the battle scenes and all this stuff.

Smile. Now where I'm at. Dude, I love the hobbit scenes when they're [00:32:00] just getting hammered and hanging out and being hobbits and being farming and whatever. Blowing smoke rings. That's one of my favorite parts is in both movies, Billbo and, and Gandolph blowing smoke rings. And 

Darin: ev every year sometime we will watch, we'll, we'll break it over into like a three weekend thing.

Usually in the winter. 

Mike: Uhhuh we'll watch, we'll watch the hobby. It's kind of a winy thing. Yeah. The uh, well they, they came out in December. They came, they were the Christmas movies for a while. Yeah. Yeah. Um, another. Another thing. And so I have a 50th anniversary, or maybe it's hundredth. I don't freaking know of the Lord of the Rings and it has illustrations.

What 

Darin: I'm just thinking, we have nothing to talk about. No, I was trying to, I, I've told this story before, but we were gonna explain the Lord of the Rings to my mom and she goes, oh, I understand it completely. Everybody wants the ring. 

Mike: Nobody could have the ring. Perfect. Yeah. Thanks mom. So I have a. Uh, book, I still have it in there.

A, a version of the Lord of the Rings. Mm-hmm. That has illustrations by Alan Lee. [00:33:00] Okay. And it, they're awesome. Mm-hmm. They're awesome pictures. And I remember when they were throwing out about every couple of months, they would throw out a new nugget of information. Ooh. A nugget. And it said that the art direction was, they were following the Alan Lee, uh, art direction Uhhuh.

And then I made Bess. I got that book, and I, we looked at each picture together and she's like, okay, yeah. I see what the dragon, yeah. That's what the, that's what the dragon's gonna look like. Yeah. And look here. Here, look here, here. That's the ball rock. That's what he's gonna look and look, look, look, look, look, MOIA, when they go to Moia, it's gonna look like that.

And I know I drove her crazy cuz we went to see Fellowship of the Rain together. Mm-hmm. And we went to, went to Moia. They, and they, in the behind the scenes, they pointed out minds of Moia. The minds of Moya. Yeah. When they went in there, Peter Jackson points out in the director commentary. Yes. I watched it.

Yeah, I did too. Uh, that scene where the light comes on and they show, they were trying to mimic an Allen Lee painting, which I had shown best and I'm like nudging her arm and I could have. She didn't say this, but [00:34:00] I could sense her saying, I, no, I'm here watching it. Will you shut the hell up? She was so happy when that movie was done because it's like, oh he'll shut up.

Well, 

Darin: one of the coolest things about my wife, my wife is awesome, Uhhuh. Okay. My wife is a badass and she loved the books and she couldn't wait to see the movies, Uhhuh. And we're in the second one, the, the, uh, two towers. Yeah. And these kids are talking behind us. And she shoots 'em the look. And then they're still talking.

She shoots 'em another 

Mike: look a longer, 

Darin: and the third time she finally turned around, she said, you people are killing me. 

Mike: You are killing 

Darin: me. And the mom was scared to death. Oh. Of my wife, Libby. Oh, yeah. And she, she, and the was like, mom, sh the mom did like the, the, the, the red light thing put her arm across the kids, like Uhuh, no, we're not gonna mess 

Mike: with this lady.

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Mike: Another turning point, a fork stuck in the road. Time grabs you by the wrist and directs you where to go. So make the best of this test and don't ask why. It's not a question, but a lesson learned in time. It's something unpredictable, but in the end it's right. I hope you had the time of your life.