IDS #204 - Mr. Wendell the Frog and Mikey the Monkey

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>> Darin: Woof.com.

>> Mike: The office jests, but that. This is their entire business model. That's what they do.

>> Darin: Poor Pam. She invested in woof.com.

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>> Dave: Welcome to irritable dad syndrome. We now have more episodes than Walker, Texas Ranger. Please give it up for your hosts, Mike and Darren.

>> Darin: Hi, I'm Darren.

>> Mike: I am Mike.

>> Darin: Welcome to irritable dad syndrome, Cincinnati's comedy podcast. This is episode 204.

>> Mike: How you doing?

>> Darin: I'm doing pretty good.

>> Mike: You're upset.

>> Darin: I was in a really, really bad mood when you saw me over the weekend. Yeah, yeah, last week.

>> Mike: Remember our front of Kroger? Front of Kroger podcast?

>> Darin: Yeah. Do you remember the movie falling down with Michael Douglas?

>> Darin: M that was a comedy. Compared to the mood I was in. That was Tim Conway and Don Knotts in the apple dumpling gang. Compared to me, the mood I was.

>> Mike: In, I was mad.

>> Darin: Yeah, I don't get that mad.

>> Mike: Man. If you want to appear tan, just wear a white shirt. Jesus.

>> Darin: Yeah.

>> Mike: I mean, I am practically alabaster now because we're just coming out of winter, but with this shirt on, why? I look like I just came off of the, I was just got done surfing.

>> Darin: The first time I ever heard the word alabaster.

>> Mike: Yeah.

>> Darin: Was because of the police.

>> Mike: Okay.

>> Darin: When you find your servant as your master, and then you will be wrapped around your finger. That's the lyric to, police song.

>> Mike: Has alabaster in the tie in this lyric. I never did like the police.

>> Darin: Really?

>> Mike: I don't like one or two. That surprises me. I like every breath you take.

>> Mike: Really? Every little thing she does is magic. And what's the other one?

>> Darin: Roxanne rocks.

>> Mike: I don't hate.

>> Darin: Don't stand so close to me.

>> Mike: I tell you what. I would erase the police from history to get rid of Roxanne. I would give up every, Every little breath she takes. Every breath you take, every breath you take. Because.

>> Darin: Really done with that.

>> Mike: That's a creepy song.

>> Darin: It is.

>> Mike: People get upset about the, I want to bang you on Christmas song. It's cold outside. Let's get aka.

>> Darin: I want to bang you at Christmas.

>> Mike: Yeah, people get upset about that one, but every little breath you take just get to pass. Uh-huh. I don't get it.

>> Darin: Yeah, well, Sting even said. Sting said he heard that people played every breath you take at their wedding. He's like, what?

>> Mike: Really?

>> Darin: okay.

>> Mike: The same thing is, Yeah, yeah. With or without you, people do that, and it's like, no, that's not. That's not a good song to do, right? Wedding. That's a very bad song. Or when Ronald Reagan did born in the USA. No.

>> Darin: He also.

When I did corporate video production, we did local healthcare heroes

Little pink houses against Mellencamp's wishes. Like, stop using my song. Listen to the lyrics.

>> Mike: Yeah. It's like, let's have the school rally and play Jeremy. No, no, no, no.

>> Darin: When I did corporate video production, we did local people who worked in healthcare. It was healthcare heroes. That's what it was doing.

>> Mike: Use doctor feel good as the background music.

>> Darin: I'm surprised they didn't pick that. So it was healthcare heroes, huh? So they were recognizing all these local healthcare heroes, and they wanted to use. I suggested using healing hands by Elton John. Okay, okay. A great song. You could find an instrumental, and we would cut out the verses.

>> Mike: Most of Elton John songs are great.

>> Darin: Yeah. Yes. So. And they're like, I don't know about that. I don't know about that. We wanted to use how to save a life because it's, you know. So I went and I listened to the lyrics about how to save a life, and it's all about a guy who wished that his best friend hadn't committed suicide and he would have stopped it had he known how to save a life. And I had to call them. I'm like, you don't want to use this song.

>> Mike: No.

>> Darin: Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. So we used healing hands by Elton John.

>> Mike: Yeah.

>> Darin: Yeah. And this is know your music by Uncle Darren.

>> Mike: It's important. You can really twist the teat the wrong way. You don't know what you're doing. Everybody should have at least one friend who knows all the songs.

>> Darin: Yes.

>> Mike: And can say, see, for me, that's Dan. My friend Dan.

>> Darin: Yeah, I know Dan.

>> Mike: we've met. If I were ever running for office, I'd be like, Dan, I think I want to use karma police for my campaign song. And he'd be like, no, no, you don't want to use the fascist police song for your political. Pick something else. And he would give options of what I could pick.

>> Darin: Yeah.

>> Mike: And then I would also. I'll say it live here and everyone can hear it. I would call you as well.

>> Darin: Yes.

>> Mike: I would want your opinion.

>> Darin: Right.

>> Mike: Yeah.

>> Darin: You wouldn't listen to it, but you would want to hear.

>> Mike: No. I would put Dan's opinion above yours. Just because Dan is like the Rayman. Okay, I've said it before, and I will say it again.

>> Darin: Yeah.

>> Mike: If I were asked to write my own autobiography, I would have to say no. We should have Dan write it, because he knows more about my life than I do. He remembers photographically.

>> Darin: Yeah.

>> Mike: Facts.

>> Darin: Yeah.

>> Mike: About, like, if you want to document my college experience, he's got. He knows what I was wearing.

>> Darin: Well, you guys have known each other for what, 30 years now, right?

>> Mike: Is that. Yeah. Since 93. Yeah.

>> Darin: 313. 2032 years.

>> Mike: Holy.

>> Darin: Yeah. It's a long time.

>> Mike: Yeah.

>> Darin: Yeah.

>> Mike: But I've known Fancher longer than Dan.

>> Darin: Yeah.

>> Mike: But if I were in a room with Dan and Fancher and I. What was I wearing on August 3, 1994, and what stupid did I say?

>> Darin: Well, you wore a u two t shirt.

>> Mike: Yeah. You wore a u two t shirt, and you were making your puppet make fun of people from your room window, which I.

>> Darin: And you had a jar of grape jelly beans.

>> Mike: I had a puppet called Mister Wendell. He, was a frog in college. Yeah.

>> Darin: Okay.

>> Mike: When else are you gonna have a puppet named Mister Wendell?

You had a hand puppet in college called Mister Wendell

>> Darin: Okay, you had a hand puppet in college. Mister Wendell.

>> Mike: A frog. A frog.

>> Darin: And what, the girls would come over and you'd let him meet Mister Wendell or.

>> Mike: No, you got to know me for a long time before you meet Mister Wendell. I don't just pull him out for any floozy walking by. You gotta. Okay.

>> Darin: I'm intrigued.

>> Mike: Mister Wendell.

>> Darin: Mister Wendell.

>> Mike: Yeah.

>> Darin: Bitch.

>> Mike: This is not. Yeah. it's a spotted frog.

>> Darin: Would you have, like, girls in the dorm, and then they would meet Mister Wendell. Seriously? Or.

>> Mike: I had Mister Wendell in the dorm. I had mister Wendell here.

>> Mike: Mister Wendell went wherever I was living at at the time. That's where Mister Wendell was.

>> Darin: And where is Mister Wendell now?

>> Mike: I don't know.

>> Darin: You've lost Mister Wendell.

>> Mike: I haven't lost Daffy. I had a daffy duck.

>> Darin: Okay.

>> Mike: And he was in the dashboard of my transamp that we talked about.

>> Darin: Right.

>> Mike: Way too many times. And so I had daffy fit. Right. The dashboard for the trans am. If I'm sitting in the trans am right now, the windshield went out to about where those stairs are. It was like, way.

>> Darin: Yes, I remember.

>> Mike: I was in a wreck. Some lady hit me, and Molly, we called. Her beaky was in the front seat. It threw her in, and she goes wedged in there.

>> Mike: And I had to retch forward and pull her out. It wasn't like, now, if, like, marbles or boobah gets thrown to the windshield, it's just like, okay, right. Because there's. Right there, this thing was like, you know, throw a line and she pulls. You know, it was like. Anyway, the point. Daffy.

>> Mike: I had him on the dashboard of the car, and I was.

>> Darin: It was Daffy. A duck or a stuffed animal?

>> Mike: Stuffed animal.

>> Darin: Okay, stuffed animal.

>> Mike: And he. I, sit the brakes name it, and his beak stuck right in there. And it was awesome. You have this black trans am. No other weird things. But there's a daffy duck sitting right there in the front. Okay, but that's not Mister Wendell.

>> Darin: But you don't know what happened to Mister Wendell.

>> Mike: I don't.

>> Darin: Okay, now, when Mister Wendell.

>> Mike: You remember the story about the waters with Missy when we went around and got all the waters?

>> Darin: Yes.

>> Mike: And then.

>> Darin: Yes.

>> Mike: Mister Wendell was with us that night. He was part of that. He partook in that.

>> Darin: Now, when Libby and I were dating, we, went to Knoxville, and we're walking around the east town mall in Knoxville. There's the east town mall, and there's the west town mall.

>> Mike: Okay.

>> Darin: East town mall's a little bit nicer. I don't know. They're both fine. So we were at the east tow mall, walking around.

>> Mike: Every town has two malls. Yes.

>> Darin: Well, except for Johnson City, then it has the mall.

>> Mike: Okay.

>> Darin: That's just what it's called.

>> Mike: Yeah. Proctorville. We had the mall.

>> Darin: The mall, yeah. so we're at the east town mall in Knoxville, and we go into one of the stores, and it has all the puppets. And Libby's off looking at some necklaces or jewelry or something. I get this monkey puppet, and I put it on my hand, and I start waving at her and then acting all cute.

The kids love Mikey the monkey, and Libby loves it too

>> Mike: Yeah.

>> Darin: And as one does, signaling her over. And she comes over and he gives her a hug, and he's trying to tell her all these. He's been pointing and. And she's, like, captivated with this. With this puppet. Right?

>> Mike: She think it was a real monkey.

>> Darin: She talked to it like it's a real puppet. Like it's a real monkey.

>> Mike: But do you know for sure that she knows?

>> Darin: Oh, she knows. Yes.

>> Mike: Okay.

>> Darin: Yes. So she's absolutely in love with this. And then I'm doing this thing, and then the monkey starts doing things that's making me laugh. Like, this is crazy. So. And then Libby's like, what are we gonna do? We can't just leave it here now. And I thought, well, what are we gonna do? And then I bought it for her as a surprise. And I gave it to her. We still have Mikey the monkey.

>> Mike: Okay.

>> Darin: Okay. He's in our. Okay, okay.

>> Mike: Yeah.

>> Darin: Mikey the monkey went to Australia, Canada, Hawaii.

>> Mike: Holy.

>> Darin: Has been to, the Carolinas, Virginia, Indiana, Kentucky. I mean, good lord.

>> Mike: Mikey the monkey has been. He's well traveled.

>> Darin: He has been to more places than most Americans. Okay.

>> Mike: Yeah.

>> Darin: And, like, when we were in Australia, we went to Ayers Rock, the giant rock out in the middle of nowhere.

>> Mike: Yeah.

>> Darin: And I walk it over, I got this puppet on my hand, and guy goes, what the hell is that? You know, in a australian accent? I said, it's. It's a mikey, the monkey. And I just looked at him like, you got a problem. He used to have an email, mikeythemonkeyotmail.com, and he would regularly email Libby.

>> Mike: Okay.

>> Darin: I said, oh, honey, how are you today? And she would. She'd email him back.

>> Mike: Yeah.

>> Darin: Okay. Yeah, that's good. Yeah, yeah. The kids love Mikey the monkey. Okay. Cause when we go on vacation still, I'll be packing the car. Next thing you know, you go out there, Mikey the monkey, sitting on the steering wheel, ready to go.

>> Mike: Ready to go.

>> Darin: And, I was. Who let the monkey out of the house, Mike? Ah, silly monkey.

>> Mike: Yeah.

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>> Darin: The great wall of China was originally built to keep Chuck Norris out.

>> Mike: Stump. I did finish better call Saul. I love better call Saul.

>> Darin: Better call Saul was incredible.

>> Mike: Yes.

>> Darin: Yeah.

>> Mike: I'm working my way through, breaking bad again now.

>> Darin: Yeah. See, I want to do that, too. And I'm going to watch it with Jacob. I think I'm going to watch it with Jacob this summer.

>> Mike: I met the part, Jesse got kicked out of his house. He just got the apartment where the Jane, he's got the apartment with right next to Jane. She doesn't know who he is yet, really.

>> Darin: Right.

>> Mike: And. And Walt, and Skyler. Boy, they're going through it. This is. This is the part where she won't. She does the thing where she won't talk to him, and she just leaves, and he's like, where are you going? Out.

>> Darin: Yeah.

>> Mike: You know?

>> Darin: Yeah, yeah, yeah. For a guy who was so talented as he was, he was horrible lying. Yeah, he was a horrible lie.

I remember when Breaking Bad finished, and I started watching better call Saul

so unconvincing now that we're a.

>> Mike: Few years now away from both series. I remember when Breaking Bad finished, and I started watching better call Saul. When that started, I thought, there's no way that they're going to be able to tell the story as good as breaking bad or finish it as good. And I still think Breaking Bad is the top.

>> Darin: Yes.

>> Mike: But, boy, better call Saul does. It was a hell of a job.

>> Darin: Ah, yeah, it was.

>> Mike: That final episode of Better Call Saul was.

>> Darin: Yeah. Tied everything together.

>> Mike: Yeah.

>> Darin: M. And then, you know, if you could consider, what was the Jesse Pinkman movie?

>> Mike: El Camino.

>> Darin: El Camino.

>> Mike: Yeah. That was really.

>> Darin: Yeah.

>> Mike: Yeah.

>> Darin: There's only.

>> Mike: All that did was make me miss breaking bad, though. I know the whole time is like, all. That's where they did the thing, and I know that's where Todd lived. That weird.

>> Darin: I know. God, I hated Tom. Hated him. But I still. Honestly, they could do a series with Skyler, and, her sister.

>> Mike: Purple lady.

>> Darin: Purple lady.

>> Mike: Yeah. What's her name?

>> Darin: Marie.

>> Mike: Yeah.

>> Darin: Yeah. And, you know, it's like, Hank.

>> Mike: I would watch a Hank and go.

>> Darin: Me, Walt junior.

>> Mike: Are they. Aren't they making another. Isn't there. Is there a Hank and go?

>> Darin: I haven't heard anything about that. I know they appeared in one episode of Better Call Saul.

>> Mike: Hank is doing something breaking bad related.

>> Darin: No, this really?

>> Mike: I think so. I'm gonna look it up.

>> Darin: Yeah. Spoiler alert. If you haven't watched Breaking Bad, I stood up at the screen. I stood up and yelled at the tv screen, no, no, God, please, no.

>> Mike: No.

>> Darin: Yeah. When something happens to Hank Schrader.

>> Mike: God, we were watching it along with everything, and I was. I was so pissed, I couldn't. I couldn't sleep that night. The episode before that.

>> Mike: It ends with the start of the thing that leads to that. They just remember. They just. They just end. That starts and they just end the episode.

Do you think Hank forgave Walt in those moments before Hank died

>> Darin: Do you think that in those. Okay, if you haven't seen breaking bad, just hang up now.

>> Mike: It's 40 years old.

>> Darin: Yeah. Do you think in those moments before Hank Schrader died, do you think he forgave Walt? When Walt dropped and said, no, absolutely no, I'll give you all this money. I'll get. He. He won't tell. He'll keep a secret, dude.

>> Mike: No.

>> Darin: he is family. You cannot do that, because he's family. When Walt was pleading, just begging, absolutely. To. To save Hank, do you think Hank forgave him in that moment? Do you think he realized.

>> Mike: I think Hank knew. That Walt was. He said, you're the smartest guy ever know you. How can you be too.

>> Darin: Too stupid to know that? He made this decision five minutes ago.

>> Mike: He knew that Walt had stepped into his world and had no idea what he was doing.

>> Darin: Yeah.

>> Mike: And so I don't think forgiveness comes into it. I think it's like. I don't know how to put it. It's like if somebody, you know, does something really stupid.

>> Darin: Right.

>> Mike: You know, they're doing it for the right reason, but they're doing something really stupid, forgiveness doesn't really come into it.

>> Darin: Yeah.

>> Mike: I think he just saw it as. You're an idiot. Did I answer your question?

>> Darin: yeah.

>> Mike: Really? Maybe. Yeah, I did.

Who died near Hank and Gomez on breaking bad

Who died? Did someone die near Hank and Gomez? No. I know they did. I don't think anyone close to them died. I know that you got. Who died? Michael? Mike? The. The plane of, the two planes of people.

>> Darin: Yeah.

>> Mike: All the informants in the prisons.

>> Darin: The two, the twins. The guys in the silver suits.

>> Mike: Yeah.

>> Darin: Tried to kill Hank in the parking lot.

>> Mike: Now, that might.

>> Darin: That was badass.

>> Mike: That was. Hank was the God man. My.

>> Darin: Yes.

>> Mike: My. My. Hank kind of annoyed me the first time I watched breaking bad, but once that happened, yeah, Hank became a hero. And then the second time I watch breaking bad, now, I'm like, every time hanks on the screen, I'm like, yeah.

>> Darin: I mean, it's like.

>> Mike: It's a. It's a mineral.

>> Darin: Vince Gill.

>> Mike: It's a mineral.

>> Darin: Yeah, that's.

>> Mike: I yell along with it.

Breaking Bad is a crime drama where you see somebody go up to the bad

>> Darin: Yeah. Walter White is doing all these horrible things. He is the bad guy. M. And you. You root for him, and then Hank is the good guy.

>> Mike: Yeah.

>> Darin: The cop trying to stop him from doing. But you see the good guys, the.

>> Mike: Bad guy, it flips you.

>> Darin: It's amazing.

>> Mike: It's the thing I love so much about Breaking Bad. I'm a sucker for the crime drama where you see somebody go up to the top of the bad.

>> Darin: Oh, the character. Yes. Yeah.

>> Mike: Carlito's way is one of my favorite movies because of that. What? That's kind of a different.

>> Darin: Well, I saw it, but I don't remember anything about it. I saw it.

>> Mike: He gets right to the. He, like, achieved his goal, and he's, like, just getting on this last train, and he's on the gravy train. He gets killed right before he gets on the train.

>> Darin: Yeah.

>> Mike: Spoiler for a 50 year old movie or how old that movie is, but breaking bad gets me because it's that, like, rising through the ranks.

>> Darin: Yeah.

>> Mike: Going from this teacher in the Aztec, the Pontiac Aztec, where, hell, he's driving, looking like a door. It's an Aztec up to, by the end, it's almost. It's almost hard to imagine. It's the same actor.

>> Darin: Yeah.

>> Mike: Like, if you watch the final episode of Breaking Bad, and you go back and you watch the first episode, it's like, that's not even the same dude.

>> Darin: Right.

>> Mike: Each time he's making a decision, it's like, it makes it a little bit. Yeah, I can, There's a point. It's like, what, at what episode did you go? I don't know if I would do that, Walt. Well, I remember, like, they made the first batch. He made that. You can understand why he made the first batch.

>> Darin: Yes.

>> Mike: And then that exposed him to crazy eight.

>> Mike: And he. He had to kill them because they tried to kill him.

>> Darin: Right.

>> Mike: But now he's got this loose end, and now he has to.

>> Darin: Guy in the basement, now he has.

>> Mike: To kill crazy eight in cold blood. Now he's gone down another level. He can't tell Skyler what he's done. Like, each of the, each of the decisions, you see why he did it, but it's like, dude, at what point do you turn around and go back the other way?

>> Darin: I remember thinking, why didn't they just stop? And then you watch it again. It's like, you know, Skyler gave away all the money, and he's laying there. You gave,

>> Mike: Every time I watch it, I see something new. Like, I. This most recent watch, he's manipulating Jesse from the very beginning. Almost like they're like equal partners for, like, maybe one or two episodes. And then you get past crazy eight and you get into Tuco land when Walt shaves his head and he starts clearly manipulating Jesse. And he gets worse and worse.

>> Darin: But there was that scene where Walt was out, and then Jesse came back to him.

>> Mike: Yes.

>> Darin: And got him back in.

>> Mike: Yeah.

>> Darin: It's like. Well, he was done. And Jesse said, one more time.

>> Mike: Yeah.

>> Darin: One more time, mister White.

>> Mike: Yeah.

>> Darin: Come on, bitch. Come on.

>> Mike: Yeah.

>> Darin: One more time.

>> Mike: Yeah.

>> Darin: And he's italian.

>> Mike: The episode that haunts me. What the hell's her name? Jesse's girlfriend?

>> Darin: Jane.

>> Mike: Jane.

>> Darin: Yeah.

>> Mike: Like, what would you do in that moment? He. You've got less than a minute to decide, right. You're either saving her life, or you're just not saving her life.

>> Darin: Right.

>> Mike: He didn't kill her.

>> Darin: Right.

>> Mike: He just didn't save her life.

>> Darin: Right.

One of the best episodes in the whole series is the train robbery episode

It's like, what about the, what about the flower that the little kid got hold of?

>> Mike: Yes. Yeah. Now. Yeah. I, can't get behind Walt there.

>> Darin: No.

>> Mike: Yeah.

>> Darin: Well, I can't get by Walt on any of it. But you. But you can see how somebody can.

>> Mike: Yeah.

>> Darin: Right.

>> Mike: The one where it's like, just goes completely dark off the rails. Dark is the kid that happens upon him. And the train just goes, yeah, at the train.

>> Darin: And Todd looks like, what?

>> Mike: That is the one of the best episodes the whole series, because they. They're at the top. They just did a train robbery of this thing, and they're like, you know, their head bumps on, fist bumping.

>> Darin: Walt comes home and scoffs, like, what'd you do today? Sell drugs? No, we robbed a train.

>> Mike: Yeah.

>> Darin: Drops the mic.

>> Mike: Yeah.

I'll tell you another tv show that rivals Breaking Bad with a character arc

>> Darin: I'll tell you another tv show that rivals Breaking Bad with a character arc, and that was Schitt's creek.

>> Mike: Okay. I've never seen it. I've heard it's really good.

>> Darin: In season one of Schitt's creek, you can't stand any of them.

>> Darin: I, mean, it's like. It's funny.

>> Mike: Yeah.

>> Darin: and it's just. It's like you're watching it because it has a stupid title and it's almost borderline just toilet humor.

>> Mike: Yeah.

>> Darin: But the more that shows happens.

>> Mike: Yeah.

>> Darin: The more they evolve and grow and mature.

>> Mike: Yeah.

>> Darin: And then by the end of it, I mean, that. That show won every Emmy show. Directing, writing, actor, actress, supporting actress. Supporting actress.

>> Mike: You. You mystic names.

>> Darin: It won, like, everything. The last year, they was nominated for Emmy awards, and it deserved every single one of them. But, yeah, the characters who you could not stand, you loved all of them.

>> Mike: Another used to remind me, game, of thrones. Jamie Lannister is the most evil son of a bitch in the first episode, and then by the end of the series, he's like a hero. You're like, you're like, every time Jamie's on the screen, you're like, yeah, go. Wait. You pushed a kid. Sleep with your sister, your sister, and you just. Yeah.

>> Darin: Hey, hey, hey. Yeah.

>> Mike: By the way, I think I told you I'm m reading Game of Thrones. I'm going to try to get through the. The book series, right. And boy, the more I read a Joffrey, the less I care for him. God, I hate it.

>> Darin: I don't care.

>> Mike: He's a douche. In the books, he's even more of, oh, my God, he's a. I think it was on Reddit or one of these people were just, like, talking about what a horrible person this kid was. And then somebody pointed, he's a really good actor. He's. You're supposed to hate him.

>> Darin: Yeah.

>> Mike: Like, you know.

>> Darin: Yeah.

>> Mike: And they, you know, they showed clips of him, like, giving interviews and he's really a nice. Well, now he's an adult, but he was a nice kid. He's like.

>> Darin: Well, it's like Todd on Breaking Bad.

>> Mike: Yeah.

>> Darin: It's taken me very, very long times.

>> Mike: Hard to watch.

>> Darin: I can't stand him.

>> Mike: Yeah. Yeah.

>> Darin: And usually the movies he's in, you don't like him anymore either. But he was in a series of Fargo.

>> Mike: Okay.

>> Darin: Ah. okay. You warm up to him when he was in Fargo.

>> Mike: Yeah. Yeah.

>> Darin: Because all the that happened to him, unfairly. And then, Yeah. So you like him in Fargo.

>> Mike: Yeah. Yeah.

>> Darin: Not anything else.

>> Mike: Yeah, yeah. But I told best because I was. I was reading the other. I know the story of Game of Thrones. I've read the first book before. I've read part of the second book, and then I just quit. I just watched the series, but I've seen the series all the way through. And I know the general gist. I know that he hasn't finished the books, but they finished the series off of notes of where he said the story was going. So I think I. Oh, they did do that. Yeah, that's. That's what I understand. I think they rushed it. I think that's why it sucked. It's because all of a sudden, you know, Bran. What the hell word Bran come from.

>> Darin: Yeah.

>> Mike: Apparently that was supposed to be over multiple seasons, and they just said, nah.

>> Darin: Remember that episode where they were fighting at night?

>> Mike: Yeah.

>> Darin: And it was so scary.

>> Mike: Yeah. Ah.

Because you couldn't tell what was coming at you. That's what makes it scary

>> Darin: Because you couldn't tell what was coming at you.

>> Mike: Yeah.

>> Darin: And all these people are bitching. I couldn't see anything. Like, they're fighting at night.

>> Mike: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

>> Darin: It's like the Texas chainsaw massacre when she's taking the guy in the wheelchair and they're running through the wood.

>> Mike: It's so hard to run. Yeah.

>> Darin: And you can't see the trees. Every. Here's the chainsaw behind you. Yeah. That's what makes it scary.

>> Mike: Yeah, yeah, yeah.

>> Darin: God, I couldn't see anything. I'm sitting there with my foot, but.

>> Mike: But I can't see that. I know. I know Joffrey's arc. I know what happens to him. I know why he's an ass. But the other night I was reading it. I've, been reading about an hour before bed, and I couldn't go to sleep.

>> Darin: Yeah.

>> Mike: And I told Bess the next morning, I was like, I got so pissed off at Joffrey.

>> Darin: Yeah.

>> Mike: You know, it's like, well, you know what he does. You've already done all that. But, yeah.

>> Darin: Yeah.

If we had to get rid of every episode and keep battle the bastards

>> Mike: Before we officially. What's everything? I still say the battle of the bastards.

>> Darin: Yeah. I was just gonna say this.

>> Mike: Still the all time.

>> Darin: If they.

>> Mike: Oh, my lord.

>> Darin: If we had to get rid of every episode and keep battle the bastards. Okay.

>> Mike: I mean, yeah. John pulling out the sword and the whole army's coming at him. I mean, that is. That's close to for Frodo.

>> Darin: He had to climb out of the dead people.

>> Mike: Oh, yeah. I was climbing on the seat. I was like this on this seat here. Because you're used to. You've been programmed since Braveheart. Oh, yeah. You got to watch out for the swords and the hammers and a horse might jump over you, but there's going to be so many dead bodies, you may drown in the dead. I never even considered that that might be a possibility.

>> Darin: See, because when I watch walking dead and they're just killing zombie after zombie after zombie. And the same thing with, Lord of the Rings. You know, I never say anything negative about Lord of the Rings, but how come there aren't bodies piling up?

>> Mike: Yeah, yeah, yeah.

>> Darin: And in Lord of the Rings, like, when they keep attacking the castle and they're killing them right after left, they're not piling up.

>> Mike: No.

>> Darin: Where are they going?

>> Mike: Yeah. Where the.

>> Darin: Where all the bodies, you know? Yeah. They're going somewhere.

>> Mike: Yeah, yeah, yeah.

>> Darin: But in Game of Thrones, they piled up.

>> Mike: Oh, yeah.

>> Darin: Yeah. On top of Jon Snow.

>> Mike: Yes.

All right. If you've enjoyed this episode, then I know you'll enjoy our other episodes

All right. All right, guys, we are officially leaving.

>> Darin: we hope to see you next week on irritable dad center.

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